if people are randomly downloading sets, how can we support that? @robertvb83 said in FBA vs. MAME:. No disrespect, I think it's awesome that people are using their spare time to mod mame games for others to enjoy. Use the binary release when available. I'll edit this post with corrections as I get them. let it be the response for statistics and when it is aggregated enough then you can think to update the mame emulator. For example, if you are running lr-mame2003 you should have 0.78 version romsets available. How can I filter games in my MAME collection? How do I verify my romsets? As extraction methods improve or advance, more data, or more "correct" data can be read from the original PCB. TL;DR Custom Retroarch controls can be added to the retroarch.cfg file in, MAME 0.174 DAT File: ProgettoSnaps MAME .dat page, MAME 2016 uses RetroArch control configuration. to my knowledge, the pace of gyruss music in fba is the same as in current mame, it seems mame changed it a few years ago (v0.146) because it was off, old mame cores should be the ones with the bad timing.

@markwkidd Allright, I might start getting into this MAME2003_plus business. Please see MAME 2003 on RetroPie for information on how to configure specific features of this emulator.

It is true that Retropie is not easy to use at the beginning because you have to configure different things to make it work the way you want (and you do need to document yourself on how to do it) Its has 3 roms inside it. Why should we do that ? It is always best to make a backup of the configuration file before manual edits. Note: The .rc file can be edited manually.

MAME Version: MAME has monthly versioned releases, there is no single version. Quite interesting: @Floob invests time in writing this help guide (that I think will be really useful for new retropie users) to avoid people asking same questions all the time... More details here: Please see the libretro MAME 2003-Plus core documentation for information on how to configure specific features of this emulator.

While in a game, press Tab to open the MAME menu, then choose the Input configuration. Details here: https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/MAME#arcade-rom-paths, How do I choose which arcade emulator I want to use? Version 0.221 was released for May 2020, 0.222 for June 2020, etc.

MAME 0.37b5 DAT File: mame4all-037b5-RetroPie-260.zip. @k0st1x you're missing my point.

However, a single mistake in the .rc file will stop AdvanceMAME from launching. Lightspeed: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,150785.0.html

aside from that, the mame2010 core is incredibly experimental and misses many important features. btw the Pi probably has more processing power than HAL 9000 was supposed to have... Aww, I was trying to update my games to newest FBA version but copying from my list with the command mentioned earlier. mame2010 (and later versions of mame) have more accurate emulation that means games perform worse than in older versions of mame....

2001: a cat odyssey ? thank you for really detailed and clear description! Do I need to unzip the romsets to get them working in MAME? Some notes about extra controls options and configuration available in MAME 2003-Plus: MAME 2010 Compatibility List: Google Drive document, MAME 2010 uses RetroArch control configuration. Which makes me think, did you try gyruss with latest fba ? ...so mame2010 was the only one that was ever going to work for you. NoScript). @dudleydes any hints?

Why is it more complicated getting games working with MAME than other systems? While in a game, press Tab to open the menu and set up the controls. not sure why, but i was never able to reproduce your "fuzzy sound" issue, i'm even wondering it it's not some kind of performance issue since the most noticeable thing for those is generally choppy audio. you get if you update from source right now. That could be useful if you need to build it from scratch, or hand the list to someone else. RetroPie Project Documentation.

even if it has 95% backward compatibility, mame2003 can be replaced by mame2010. Romcenter: http://www.romcenter.com/

I'd backup your roms until you get the hang of it in case you alter your original files by mistake.

MAME 2003-Plus uses both RetroArch control configuration and the MAME input configuration menu (accessible by pressing Tab). – Click Save

and again, really thank you for the detailed descriptions, As far as I know, very few people read the documentation first.

Here are a couple of videos showing a Pi running MAME, I've read all this, as well as the Wiki, and still need help with MAME If you're getting started with an arcade emulation project, begin by reading the Arcade page. No, besides the MAME forks, there are also versions of FBA, AdvanceMAME, GnGeo etc.. which all emulate arcade games.

@administrators any chance to get this thread sticky? MAME 0.37b5 XML File: mame4all-no-clones-no-neogeo Does not include clones or NeoGeo romsets.

Each new version will support more games, have bug fixes and other improvements, you can see exactly what the differences are inthe "whatsnew" file in the link above. The MAME 2003-Plus catver.ini also contains data on games definitively known not to work, as well as sorting data for mature games or other, less desirable, romsets. Once you have verified your romsets you will find that the vast majority of games will now work without issue. I spent about 3 hours: try some different bios's, different roms and different emulators (lr-mame2003, lr-mame4all), ... When you start the game from Emulation Station you will see a "Runcommand" window appear, if you press a button here you can set which emulator you want to use.

what is your opinion about it?

THANK YOU! Any config can be made ROM-specific using a romname/ prefix which is handy for overriding a setting for a specific ROM or class of ROMs, such as vertical/. http://blog.petrockblock.com/forums/topic/mame-versions-and-romsets-on-retropie/#post-93597. Does anyone understand how this works? While in a game, press Tab to open the menu and set up controls. – Choose “Batch File” in the export list For example, you can see the MAME controller configs here: https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/MAME Its often easier to use a libretro (lr) emulator, so once you have your controller working in RetroArch for one system, it will work with all of the libretro based systems.

Yes, and No. @grant2258 oh my god you are right it is working! But the only other galaga.zip you have is from 0.105 (Apr 2006). I do not expect that people just do as I want. Here is part of the run command verbose log I get when trying to launch it: I noticed that it is looking for a file called 238-pg1.p1 and when I open shocktro.zip there is only a file names 238.p1.p1.

MAME and FBA teams have been working together for a loooong time, and both emulators have different focus. Once you create your list, what do you do create a .dat file and just put that in the directory. Please tell me, why Retropie "out of the box" have two old versions of mame, instead of worked mame2010? It is always best to make a backup of the advmame.rc file before manual edits. @dankcushions and @suprjami ,

Why do some MAME romsets need other romsets to work? http://docs.mamedev.org/usingmame/aboutromsets.html. AdvanceMAME configuration for controls is stored in /opt/retropie/configs/mame-advmame/advmame.rc.

Game-Set-Match: https://sourceforge.net/p/gamesetmatch/, Here is one way of doing it:

Please download a browser that supports JavaScript, or enable it if it's disabled (i.e. So you need to use a version of MAME (or FBA etc..) that supports a romset that is at least 0.68 or newer. you happened to download a 0.139 set (which would only work in mame2010), but someone else could happen to download a 0.78 set (only works in mame2003), or someone else could download a 0.56 set (works in nothing in retropie), etc. https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Validating,-Rebuilding,-and-Filtering-ROM-Collections#crash-course-in-arcade-rom-terminology Does not include: clones, NeoGeo, PlayChoice NES/multiplay, romsets with rotary/dial/trackball/light gun controls, or romsets classified as casino/quiz/mahjong/fruit_machines/rhythm/mature.

Lets say this should have 5 roms inside it. Broadly speaking, when data has been extracted from, say a Megadrive game cartridge, that is the definitive version, all information has been fully and correctly extracted from the cartridge.

@barbudreadmon @grant2258

lr-mame2000 Compatibility List feel free to contribute to the list.

MCMPlus: http://mcm.mameworld.info/ If you like fba use it, if you like mame2003+ use it, if you like both use both.

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if people are randomly downloading sets, how can we support that? @robertvb83 said in FBA vs. MAME:. No disrespect, I think it's awesome that people are using their spare time to mod mame games for others to enjoy. Use the binary release when available. I'll edit this post with corrections as I get them. let it be the response for statistics and when it is aggregated enough then you can think to update the mame emulator. For example, if you are running lr-mame2003 you should have 0.78 version romsets available. How can I filter games in my MAME collection? How do I verify my romsets? As extraction methods improve or advance, more data, or more "correct" data can be read from the original PCB. TL;DR Custom Retroarch controls can be added to the retroarch.cfg file in, MAME 0.174 DAT File: ProgettoSnaps MAME .dat page, MAME 2016 uses RetroArch control configuration. to my knowledge, the pace of gyruss music in fba is the same as in current mame, it seems mame changed it a few years ago (v0.146) because it was off, old mame cores should be the ones with the bad timing.

@markwkidd Allright, I might start getting into this MAME2003_plus business. Please see MAME 2003 on RetroPie for information on how to configure specific features of this emulator.

It is true that Retropie is not easy to use at the beginning because you have to configure different things to make it work the way you want (and you do need to document yourself on how to do it) Its has 3 roms inside it. Why should we do that ? It is always best to make a backup of the configuration file before manual edits. Note: The .rc file can be edited manually.

MAME Version: MAME has monthly versioned releases, there is no single version. Quite interesting: @Floob invests time in writing this help guide (that I think will be really useful for new retropie users) to avoid people asking same questions all the time... More details here: Please see the libretro MAME 2003-Plus core documentation for information on how to configure specific features of this emulator.

While in a game, press Tab to open the MAME menu, then choose the Input configuration. Details here: https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/MAME#arcade-rom-paths, How do I choose which arcade emulator I want to use? Version 0.221 was released for May 2020, 0.222 for June 2020, etc.

MAME 0.37b5 DAT File: mame4all-037b5-RetroPie-260.zip. @k0st1x you're missing my point.

However, a single mistake in the .rc file will stop AdvanceMAME from launching. Lightspeed: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,150785.0.html

aside from that, the mame2010 core is incredibly experimental and misses many important features. btw the Pi probably has more processing power than HAL 9000 was supposed to have... Aww, I was trying to update my games to newest FBA version but copying from my list with the command mentioned earlier. mame2010 (and later versions of mame) have more accurate emulation that means games perform worse than in older versions of mame....

2001: a cat odyssey ? thank you for really detailed and clear description! Do I need to unzip the romsets to get them working in MAME? Some notes about extra controls options and configuration available in MAME 2003-Plus: MAME 2010 Compatibility List: Google Drive document, MAME 2010 uses RetroArch control configuration. Which makes me think, did you try gyruss with latest fba ? ...so mame2010 was the only one that was ever going to work for you. NoScript). @dudleydes any hints?

Why is it more complicated getting games working with MAME than other systems? While in a game, press Tab to open the menu and set up the controls. not sure why, but i was never able to reproduce your "fuzzy sound" issue, i'm even wondering it it's not some kind of performance issue since the most noticeable thing for those is generally choppy audio. you get if you update from source right now. That could be useful if you need to build it from scratch, or hand the list to someone else. RetroPie Project Documentation.

even if it has 95% backward compatibility, mame2003 can be replaced by mame2010. Romcenter: http://www.romcenter.com/

I'd backup your roms until you get the hang of it in case you alter your original files by mistake.

MAME 2003-Plus uses both RetroArch control configuration and the MAME input configuration menu (accessible by pressing Tab). – Click Save

and again, really thank you for the detailed descriptions, As far as I know, very few people read the documentation first.

Here are a couple of videos showing a Pi running MAME, I've read all this, as well as the Wiki, and still need help with MAME If you're getting started with an arcade emulation project, begin by reading the Arcade page. No, besides the MAME forks, there are also versions of FBA, AdvanceMAME, GnGeo etc.. which all emulate arcade games.

@administrators any chance to get this thread sticky? MAME 0.37b5 XML File: mame4all-no-clones-no-neogeo Does not include clones or NeoGeo romsets.

Each new version will support more games, have bug fixes and other improvements, you can see exactly what the differences are inthe "whatsnew" file in the link above. The MAME 2003-Plus catver.ini also contains data on games definitively known not to work, as well as sorting data for mature games or other, less desirable, romsets. Once you have verified your romsets you will find that the vast majority of games will now work without issue. I spent about 3 hours: try some different bios's, different roms and different emulators (lr-mame2003, lr-mame4all), ... When you start the game from Emulation Station you will see a "Runcommand" window appear, if you press a button here you can set which emulator you want to use.

what is your opinion about it?

THANK YOU! Any config can be made ROM-specific using a romname/ prefix which is handy for overriding a setting for a specific ROM or class of ROMs, such as vertical/. http://blog.petrockblock.com/forums/topic/mame-versions-and-romsets-on-retropie/#post-93597. Does anyone understand how this works? While in a game, press Tab to open the menu and set up controls. – Choose “Batch File” in the export list For example, you can see the MAME controller configs here: https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/MAME Its often easier to use a libretro (lr) emulator, so once you have your controller working in RetroArch for one system, it will work with all of the libretro based systems.

Yes, and No. @grant2258 oh my god you are right it is working! But the only other galaga.zip you have is from 0.105 (Apr 2006). I do not expect that people just do as I want. Here is part of the run command verbose log I get when trying to launch it: I noticed that it is looking for a file called 238-pg1.p1 and when I open shocktro.zip there is only a file names 238.p1.p1.

MAME and FBA teams have been working together for a loooong time, and both emulators have different focus. Once you create your list, what do you do create a .dat file and just put that in the directory. Please tell me, why Retropie "out of the box" have two old versions of mame, instead of worked mame2010? It is always best to make a backup of the advmame.rc file before manual edits. @dankcushions and @suprjami ,

Why do some MAME romsets need other romsets to work? http://docs.mamedev.org/usingmame/aboutromsets.html. AdvanceMAME configuration for controls is stored in /opt/retropie/configs/mame-advmame/advmame.rc.

Game-Set-Match: https://sourceforge.net/p/gamesetmatch/, Here is one way of doing it:

Please download a browser that supports JavaScript, or enable it if it's disabled (i.e. So you need to use a version of MAME (or FBA etc..) that supports a romset that is at least 0.68 or newer. you happened to download a 0.139 set (which would only work in mame2010), but someone else could happen to download a 0.78 set (only works in mame2003), or someone else could download a 0.56 set (works in nothing in retropie), etc. https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Validating,-Rebuilding,-and-Filtering-ROM-Collections#crash-course-in-arcade-rom-terminology Does not include: clones, NeoGeo, PlayChoice NES/multiplay, romsets with rotary/dial/trackball/light gun controls, or romsets classified as casino/quiz/mahjong/fruit_machines/rhythm/mature.

Lets say this should have 5 roms inside it. Broadly speaking, when data has been extracted from, say a Megadrive game cartridge, that is the definitive version, all information has been fully and correctly extracted from the cartridge.

@barbudreadmon @grant2258

lr-mame2000 Compatibility List feel free to contribute to the list.

MCMPlus: http://mcm.mameworld.info/ If you like fba use it, if you like mame2003+ use it, if you like both use both.

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mame vs retropie

That's what I can commit to helping with as part of the overall goal of having accurate information. It requires more processing power than earlier MAME versions and will not run as many games at full speed on Raspberry Pi hardware. This is really an excellent post.

lr-mame2003 is a popular choice for the Raspberry Pi 2 and up, as it combines a large romset (MAME 0.78) playing host to most 2D-era arcade games that people would …

Tools you could use to verify/rebuild mame romsets: Try them out, and see what you prefer. Installing from binary will probably get a version that's a little behind the current MAME, but the upstream Libretro repository tries to keep up with MAME's monthly releases, so installing from source.

lr-mame2003. There are a variety of arcade emulator versions available in RetroPie.

This is not the case for everyone.

Any config can be made ROM-specific using a romname/ prefix, which is handy for overriding a setting for a specific ROM or class of ROMs, such as vertical/. when i started a year ago with planing and research for my cabinet it really gave me frustration and headaches. To avoid having several menus for different arcade emulators, all arcade-based ROMs can be placed in the arcade ROM folder, but you will have to specify which emulator each zipped ROM set will use from the Runcommand Menu. I can't confirm this with the actual pcb though. page for more information. So Mame 2010 is used instead. The issue/benefit with MAME, is that the romsets can change over time to be more accurate, so for example in one version of mame, galaga.zip could well have different contents to galaga.zip from a different version of MAME.

the user generated xls lists are not vry useful and nobody has the Motivation to do all this for thousands of games. How does this translate to a list or .xml that Retropie can read and filter? http://www.progettoemma.net/index.php?gioco=ddonpach&lang=en Hosting provided by

For using Romlister or filtering mame roms. – The dialog box says “copy %ROM%.zip c:\mame\roms” that directory should be the one you want to create the new smaller romset list into. MAME 0.78u5 DAT File: mame2003-lr-working-no-clones - Working romsets only. MAME 0.160 DAT File: ProgettoSnaps MAME .dat page, MAME 2015 uses RetroArch control configuration. I used it to get a full arcade bartop working from nothing and I only ever had to ask one question and that turned out to be a bug that got solved by @meleu . Mame2003+ exists to improve mame2003 (mame078 code base) and this is the core that works best for low end hardware for raspberry pi. It requires more processing power than earlier MAME versions and will not run as many games at full speed on Raspberry Pi hardware.

https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/Managing-ROMs, Here are some options: :-). but retropie has specific emulators set in "basic setup".

if people are randomly downloading sets, how can we support that? @robertvb83 said in FBA vs. MAME:. No disrespect, I think it's awesome that people are using their spare time to mod mame games for others to enjoy. Use the binary release when available. I'll edit this post with corrections as I get them. let it be the response for statistics and when it is aggregated enough then you can think to update the mame emulator. For example, if you are running lr-mame2003 you should have 0.78 version romsets available. How can I filter games in my MAME collection? How do I verify my romsets? As extraction methods improve or advance, more data, or more "correct" data can be read from the original PCB. TL;DR Custom Retroarch controls can be added to the retroarch.cfg file in, MAME 0.174 DAT File: ProgettoSnaps MAME .dat page, MAME 2016 uses RetroArch control configuration. to my knowledge, the pace of gyruss music in fba is the same as in current mame, it seems mame changed it a few years ago (v0.146) because it was off, old mame cores should be the ones with the bad timing.

@markwkidd Allright, I might start getting into this MAME2003_plus business. Please see MAME 2003 on RetroPie for information on how to configure specific features of this emulator.

It is true that Retropie is not easy to use at the beginning because you have to configure different things to make it work the way you want (and you do need to document yourself on how to do it) Its has 3 roms inside it. Why should we do that ? It is always best to make a backup of the configuration file before manual edits. Note: The .rc file can be edited manually.

MAME Version: MAME has monthly versioned releases, there is no single version. Quite interesting: @Floob invests time in writing this help guide (that I think will be really useful for new retropie users) to avoid people asking same questions all the time... More details here: Please see the libretro MAME 2003-Plus core documentation for information on how to configure specific features of this emulator.

While in a game, press Tab to open the MAME menu, then choose the Input configuration. Details here: https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/MAME#arcade-rom-paths, How do I choose which arcade emulator I want to use? Version 0.221 was released for May 2020, 0.222 for June 2020, etc.

MAME 0.37b5 DAT File: mame4all-037b5-RetroPie-260.zip. @k0st1x you're missing my point.

However, a single mistake in the .rc file will stop AdvanceMAME from launching. Lightspeed: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,150785.0.html

aside from that, the mame2010 core is incredibly experimental and misses many important features. btw the Pi probably has more processing power than HAL 9000 was supposed to have... Aww, I was trying to update my games to newest FBA version but copying from my list with the command mentioned earlier. mame2010 (and later versions of mame) have more accurate emulation that means games perform worse than in older versions of mame....

2001: a cat odyssey ? thank you for really detailed and clear description! Do I need to unzip the romsets to get them working in MAME? Some notes about extra controls options and configuration available in MAME 2003-Plus: MAME 2010 Compatibility List: Google Drive document, MAME 2010 uses RetroArch control configuration. Which makes me think, did you try gyruss with latest fba ? ...so mame2010 was the only one that was ever going to work for you. NoScript). @dudleydes any hints?

Why is it more complicated getting games working with MAME than other systems? While in a game, press Tab to open the menu and set up the controls. not sure why, but i was never able to reproduce your "fuzzy sound" issue, i'm even wondering it it's not some kind of performance issue since the most noticeable thing for those is generally choppy audio. you get if you update from source right now. That could be useful if you need to build it from scratch, or hand the list to someone else. RetroPie Project Documentation.

even if it has 95% backward compatibility, mame2003 can be replaced by mame2010. Romcenter: http://www.romcenter.com/

I'd backup your roms until you get the hang of it in case you alter your original files by mistake.

MAME 2003-Plus uses both RetroArch control configuration and the MAME input configuration menu (accessible by pressing Tab). – Click Save

and again, really thank you for the detailed descriptions, As far as I know, very few people read the documentation first.

Here are a couple of videos showing a Pi running MAME, I've read all this, as well as the Wiki, and still need help with MAME If you're getting started with an arcade emulation project, begin by reading the Arcade page. No, besides the MAME forks, there are also versions of FBA, AdvanceMAME, GnGeo etc.. which all emulate arcade games.

@administrators any chance to get this thread sticky? MAME 0.37b5 XML File: mame4all-no-clones-no-neogeo Does not include clones or NeoGeo romsets.

Each new version will support more games, have bug fixes and other improvements, you can see exactly what the differences are inthe "whatsnew" file in the link above. The MAME 2003-Plus catver.ini also contains data on games definitively known not to work, as well as sorting data for mature games or other, less desirable, romsets. Once you have verified your romsets you will find that the vast majority of games will now work without issue. I spent about 3 hours: try some different bios's, different roms and different emulators (lr-mame2003, lr-mame4all), ... When you start the game from Emulation Station you will see a "Runcommand" window appear, if you press a button here you can set which emulator you want to use.

what is your opinion about it?

THANK YOU! Any config can be made ROM-specific using a romname/ prefix which is handy for overriding a setting for a specific ROM or class of ROMs, such as vertical/. http://blog.petrockblock.com/forums/topic/mame-versions-and-romsets-on-retropie/#post-93597. Does anyone understand how this works? While in a game, press Tab to open the menu and set up controls. – Choose “Batch File” in the export list For example, you can see the MAME controller configs here: https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/MAME Its often easier to use a libretro (lr) emulator, so once you have your controller working in RetroArch for one system, it will work with all of the libretro based systems.

Yes, and No. @grant2258 oh my god you are right it is working! But the only other galaga.zip you have is from 0.105 (Apr 2006). I do not expect that people just do as I want. Here is part of the run command verbose log I get when trying to launch it: I noticed that it is looking for a file called 238-pg1.p1 and when I open shocktro.zip there is only a file names 238.p1.p1.

MAME and FBA teams have been working together for a loooong time, and both emulators have different focus. Once you create your list, what do you do create a .dat file and just put that in the directory. Please tell me, why Retropie "out of the box" have two old versions of mame, instead of worked mame2010? It is always best to make a backup of the advmame.rc file before manual edits. @dankcushions and @suprjami ,

Why do some MAME romsets need other romsets to work? http://docs.mamedev.org/usingmame/aboutromsets.html. AdvanceMAME configuration for controls is stored in /opt/retropie/configs/mame-advmame/advmame.rc.

Game-Set-Match: https://sourceforge.net/p/gamesetmatch/, Here is one way of doing it:

Please download a browser that supports JavaScript, or enable it if it's disabled (i.e. So you need to use a version of MAME (or FBA etc..) that supports a romset that is at least 0.68 or newer. you happened to download a 0.139 set (which would only work in mame2010), but someone else could happen to download a 0.78 set (only works in mame2003), or someone else could download a 0.56 set (works in nothing in retropie), etc. https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Validating,-Rebuilding,-and-Filtering-ROM-Collections#crash-course-in-arcade-rom-terminology Does not include: clones, NeoGeo, PlayChoice NES/multiplay, romsets with rotary/dial/trackball/light gun controls, or romsets classified as casino/quiz/mahjong/fruit_machines/rhythm/mature.

Lets say this should have 5 roms inside it. Broadly speaking, when data has been extracted from, say a Megadrive game cartridge, that is the definitive version, all information has been fully and correctly extracted from the cartridge.

@barbudreadmon @grant2258

lr-mame2000 Compatibility List feel free to contribute to the list.

MCMPlus: http://mcm.mameworld.info/ If you like fba use it, if you like mame2003+ use it, if you like both use both.

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